Comments on: Elections in Serbia – outcome irrelevant for Kosovo http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/ the couch is occupied... meow! Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:21:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Global Voices на Македонски » Србија: Претседателот Тадиќ повторно избран http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/comment-page-1/#comment-1638 Global Voices на Македонски » Србија: Претседателот Тадиќ повторно избран Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:13:43 +0000 http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/#comment-1638 [...] блогер д-р Филомена, пишува за косовското прашање и двајцата претседателски [...] [...] блогер д-р Филомена, пишува за косовското прашање и двајцата претседателски [...]

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Serbia: President Tadic Gets Re-Elected http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/comment-page-1/#comment-1492 Global Voices Online » Serbia: President Tadic Gets Re-Elected Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:52:10 +0000 http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/#comment-1492 [...] Filomena, a Slovenian blogger, wrote this on the Kosovo issue and the two presidential candidates: […] Tadić and Nikolić are not [...] [...] Filomena, a Slovenian blogger, wrote this on the Kosovo issue and the two presidential candidates: […] Tadić and Nikolić are not [...]

]]> By: Binula http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/comment-page-1/#comment-1486 Binula Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:11:32 +0000 http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/#comment-1486 I think that Tadić is sexier ;) I think that Tadić is sexier ;)

]]> By: dr.filomena http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/comment-page-1/#comment-1485 dr.filomena Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:43:54 +0000 http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/#comment-1485 Oh well, maybe frickingserb can at least drop by for a quick couch session with a cup of coffee and a donut for today ;-) A fine introduction to the repentance scheduled for tomorrow... Oh well, maybe frickingserb can at least drop by for a quick couch session with a cup of coffee and a donut for today ;-) A fine introduction to the repentance scheduled for tomorrow…

]]> By: pengovsky http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/comment-page-1/#comment-1484 pengovsky Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:34:43 +0000 http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/#comment-1484 With our foreign minister the doom might just be around the corner :) With our foreign minister the doom might just be around the corner :)

]]> By: dr. filomena http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/comment-page-1/#comment-1483 dr. filomena Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:13:45 +0000 http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/#comment-1483 @frickingserb: You're welcome to come sit on my couch for the wait. I'll offer tea and biscuits as it may take a while. @frickingserb: You’re welcome to come sit on my couch for the wait. I’ll offer tea and biscuits as it may take a while.

]]> By: frickingserb http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/comment-page-1/#comment-1479 frickingserb Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:29:00 +0000 http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/#comment-1479 I do hope I'll live to see the doom of the most disgusting people in the world - Slovenians. I do hope I’ll live to see the doom of the most disgusting people in the world – Slovenians.

]]> By: dr.filomena http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/comment-page-1/#comment-1478 dr.filomena Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:41:44 +0000 http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/#comment-1478 I don't think 'the masses' are faking it, but I think you may be underestimating the pragmatism Serbs, particularly the ones in power and those in urban areas are capable of. Yes, we do have a fundamental disagreement here, arising from a different perception of "what is theirs". Even if Serbs no longer have possession of Kosovo, they hold title to it in a way. And if they are expected to waive it peacefully (either in full or in relation to the southern two thirds of the province), they should be duly compensated. I think we'll end up having to agree to disagree ;-) <em>(Call me Karolina press.)</em> I don’t think ‘the masses’ are faking it, but I think you may be underestimating the pragmatism Serbs, particularly the ones in power and those in urban areas are capable of.

Yes, we do have a fundamental disagreement here, arising from a different perception of “what is theirs”. Even if Serbs no longer have possession of Kosovo, they hold title to it in a way. And if they are expected to waive it peacefully (either in full or in relation to the southern two thirds of the province), they should be duly compensated.

I think we’ll end up having to agree to disagree ;-)

(Call me Karolina press.)

]]> By: pengovsky http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/comment-page-1/#comment-1477 pengovsky Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:04:17 +0000 http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/#comment-1477 Given the multitude of Serb mythology connected with Kosovo I don't think they're faking it. You seem to insist that Serbs are behaving rationally. But if they are not, then negotiations are not an option. But even <I>if they were</I> - how could they ever negotiate over something that is not theirs? The US have <I>already negotiated</I> oil and gas pipelines. With the Kosovars. That's why they're supporting their independence in the first plaice. Given the multitude of Serb mythology connected with Kosovo I don’t think they’re faking it. You seem to insist that Serbs are behaving rationally. But if they are not, then negotiations are not an option.

But even if they were – how could they ever negotiate over something that is not theirs? The US have already negotiated oil and gas pipelines. With the Kosovars. That’s why they’re supporting their independence in the first plaice.

]]> By: dr.filomena http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/comment-page-1/#comment-1476 dr.filomena Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:47:30 +0000 http://www.drfilomena.com/2008/02/elections-in-serbia-outcome-irrelevant-for-kosovo/#comment-1476 I think Serbs achieved their objective if they got you to think they are unwilling to negotiate over Kosovo. That is the strongest negotiating starting point imaginable. Make the opposite side believe it and you've secured the greatest possible profit in return for a cause arguably long-ago lost. Furthermore, I never mentioned negotiating with Kosovo. What I actually had in mind was negotiations with the US, EU, Russia (and ok, the UN) *about* Kosovo. Surely, oil and gas pipelines come at a price? I think Serbs achieved their objective if they got you to think they are unwilling to negotiate over Kosovo. That is the strongest negotiating starting point imaginable. Make the opposite side believe it and you’ve secured the greatest possible profit in return for a cause arguably long-ago lost.

Furthermore, I never mentioned negotiating with Kosovo. What I actually had in mind was negotiations with the US, EU, Russia (and ok, the UN) *about* Kosovo. Surely, oil and gas pipelines come at a price?

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